BBS RK on my Starlet EP91?

I wonder if this BBS RK 4x100 with ET35 will fit my Starlet EP91 without touching? Tires are 195/45/16.

Anybody know?

Do you think they will look okay on the Starlet?

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Video, Socks Starlet Glanza with much power!

Fast Toyota Starlet Glanza V with GT30, 376 HP in a 1.3 liter engine :) Fast!!





And here when a Ferrari gets it.. (Starlet Glanza V vs Ferrari F355 Spider )




Read more about his car here: http://www.ukstarletowners.com/topic/27821-socks-white-glanza-v/

Some Nice Alloy Wheels for the Starlet?

What kind of wheels will fit. I have done some research, but not tried it my self.

Starlet EP91 is 4x100 ET38
(4x100 PCD )
Mentioned in Owners Manual: 145/80R13 and 165/70R13
145SR13 4x13 ET39
155/80 R13 5x13 ET39
155SR13 5x13 ET39
165/70 R13 5x13 ET39
185/55 R14 5.5x14 ET39

Diameters: 13'' - 14''
Width (mm): 155 - 185
Tire aspect ratio (%): 55 - 80
Smallest tire size: 155/80 R13
Largest tire size: 185/55 R14

Bolt pattern 4x100
Diameter: 13'' - 14'';
Width (inches): 5 - 5.5;
Offset (mm): 39.


All these keep the turning diameter within +/- 2% of std

205/50 14
195/55 14
185/50 15
195/45 15
205/45 15
195/40 16

Std Hubs
4 x 100mm pcd
Centre Bore 54.1mm
Offset 35-39mm
Thread 12x1.5mm



 I know its no more than 38mm and no less than 35mm. All yaris wheels will go straight on, as will wheels from corollas etc. Most after market rims shud fit with 4x100 PCD and 35/38 mm offset.

According to a source on the Internet: The recommended offset for Starlet is 35-42

That is if you dont want to hit the wheel archers. It also of course depends on wheel size and tires. But I think you will be safe going 15" at least. Dont know about 16".

+35 on a 6.5in wide would sit nice with plenty of clearance.

+38 with a 7in wide.

Anymore and it sits to far in and looks funny

If you can get the 17x7 +38 in 4x100 then happy days ! However the rear might scrub when you get fatties in the back.
Hey just for informations sake, i have 225/35 18s on my ep91. i get no scrub in the back, and alittle scrub on full lock in the front.

Stock is 165/70R13 (13x5.5) I believe (correct me if I'm wrong).

Anything wider than 7" will stick out from the factory guards.

Nice rims

Rota GT3, Picture from: http://www.clubcivic.com/board/showthread.php?p=3238756

ROTA GT3 16 Inch 7J 4X100 ET40 Royal White
The Rota GT3 are Gab Sports replica Wheels, Drag DR 16 looks pretty much alike.

Gab Sports 16x7 4x100, picture from: http://forums.nwp4life.com/zerothread?cmd=print&id=38675

Other rims I like

White Rota Fighter
Diffrent version exist, but this is a nice one: http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=316013
ROTA Circuit 8 16 Inch 7J 4X100/114.3 ET40 Royal White

Konig Forward Wheels 15X6.5 4X100 ET38 White/Pink Stripe

TD Monza RS Wht/Blu

Ultraleggera OZ with Toyo Proxes T1-R 195/40-16, I think ET37.

Picture from: http://citybugs.se/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4&start=90

mGustaafssoN wheels on a Lupo

Rims: Rota RB Gunmetal 15x8" et30 

Tires: Nankang AS1 165/45-15

Spacer: fram 8mm Bak 10mm

Picture from: http://www.garaget.org/?car=307761&image=2914557

Picture from: http://www.garaget.org/?car=307761&image=3132843

Also in white

Rota RB 15x8 ET30 in white

Some treads about low ET and wide rims: http://www.ukstarletowners.com/topic/60267-some-tips-for-the-people-who-are-going-for-low-offset-rims-ep91/

http://www.ukstarletowners.com/topic/60381-will-15-x-8-et-30-fit-on-my-glanza/

"+25 seems to be the perfect offset for an 8" rim." (Starlet EP82)
http://austarletclub.com/index.php?/topic/18556-15x8-0-on-ep82/

"Ive got rota cup's 16x8j et35 with 195/45 and arches needed rolling"

"I got some 8x15 compomotives et32 with 185/50-15 tires. Lookes great, no spacing and no rubbing after I rolled the arches back some." - ErikG

8x15 compomotives et32 with 185/50-15 tires
Picture from: http://www.toyotagtturbo.com/forums/showthread.php?42215-15x8-rims-will-they-fit-problem-free/page2

The correct size for Starlet is 38-40, so 35 will be sticking out a tiny bit.

Rotas on a Starlet- Picture from:
http://106owners.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?233196-Dans-Starlet-Roof-Wrap
"15x8 with ET0, the spokes were literally against the caliper carrier, and the rears would scrub like hell without arch work" - Dan_1.1

Wheels Avid01 15x8 ET 25 all arround
Tyres Nankang 185/55/15BC coilovers
Picture from: http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Toyota-Starlet-1997/SSE-AD-2554510/

"low offset wheels are a night mare mine eats wheel bearings, bottom ball joints et" - http://www.ukstarletowners.com/topic/40293-i-want-hellaflush/

15x8" rota rb`s 4x100 et30 ideal for e30`s mx5`s civics

Picture from: http://www.driftworks.com/forum/wheels-tyres-sale-private-sales/163124-15x8-rota-rb-s-4x100-et20-ideal-e30-s-mx5-s-civics-etc-300-a.html

Nice on this golf: nexxen 195 45 on rota rb 15x8 et35

Picture from http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4608479

Rays volk racing gr-n +43 4x100 15x7

Pictures from: http://hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=2909891

Rays volk racing gr-n +43 4x100 15x7

I have always liked Azev, here type A on a BMW E30

Picture from: http://www.freshfix.net/meet/the-big-meet-2012-pt-1.html

Rota Fighter 16x7, et40, spacers 20mm is included.

Rota fighter 16" x 7tum. 4x100 et 40.
20mm spacers. The wheels are ns2 165/65/16  ( stretch! )
I guess ET40 will work? I could go without the spacers, but it might perhaps work to use the spacers with this narrow tires?
Spacers are 4x100 with 57,1mm hub adapted for the Rota rims. I guess 57,1 mm will work on a EP91?

Toyota Starlet with a sun roof

Check this out:

I have never seen this sunroof on a Starlet before. Must be nice in the summer..

Toyota Starlet P9, EP91 with a sunroof

Source: http://www.autoscout24.at/Details.aspx?id=241088502&asrc=st

Corolla manifold on a Starlet EP91, more hp

The easiest way to get more power is to get 4efte, and replace all togehter. But here in Sweden there are no turbo Starlets... so cant find any.

This post is a bit messy, I am trying go gather facts and opinons about the diffrent engines, so bear with me... :)

Inlet manifolds from the following cars should fit on a naturated aspired 4efe.
4efte, 5efe, 5efhe, 4efe

Three versions of th 4efe has been made:

First generation 4E-FE

"The first generation of 4E engines found in the Starlet GI, Soleil and Corolla models were produced from 1989 until 1996. The engine found in these two models produces 88 bhp (66 kW) at 6,600 rpm and 86 lb·ft (117 N·m) at 5,200 rpm. This engine had more in common with the 4E-FTE, sharing the same throttle body, and slightly larger fuel injectors." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_E_engine#First_generation_4E-FE

Second generation 4E-FE

"The 2nd Generation of the 4E-FE was introduced in 1996 producing less peak power: 74 bhp (55 kW) at 5,500 rpm, but with a slight increase in peak torque 87 lb·ft (118 N·m) at 4,400 rpm. The 2nd generation of the 4E-FE was essentially the same engine as the first but the intake and exhaust manifolds were changed along with a slight alteration of the ECU meant to reduce exhaust emissions."

Third generation 4E-FE

"In 1997 the intake manifold was changed again along with the ECU and the result was 85 bhp for the Corolla and 82 bhp for the Starlet. This engine was discontinued in 1999."

"4efte's can be bought cheap these days, if you have a EP91 NA and you find a Glanza V engine then it's really easy as the ECU is plug and play"

I think this Corolla intake manifold can be mounted on a Starlet EP91 4E-FE engine and can give some extra horsepower?

"4efe from a JDM starlet (starlet Gi or Glanza S) has bigger injectors, a different inlet manifold and a more aggressive ECU" - Dave

UK Spec 4EFE - 74bhp
JDM 4EFE - 100bhp

"The Glanza S has 85 hp"



I am trying to gather information about the diffrent versions of more power there are of 4EFE.



I think this versions is what most swedish corolla 1.3 1989 to 1996 with a 4efe has.

I think this engine is from an 4efe corolla?

Ralph1: "I need all the air intake plastic bits and vacumm lines etc?"

From what I've heard there are thicker rods in these engines, and stronger valve springs.

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https://www.ukstarletowners.com/topic/94935-4efe-corolla-e11-tubular-inlet-manifold-into-na-ep91-starlet/

Thanks to FrozenJakalope for answering questions on ukstarletowners.com

1. The swap of the intake manifold between 2nd and 3rd Gen 4E-FE is just straight forward replacement - correct? (all the hoses, cables etc stay where they are? The existing bracket holding the inlet stays and fits ok?)

Yes to all of the above except the small hose that goes to the MAP sensor will be slightly too short. Think it's a 4mm silicone hose you need, can be got on eBay for less than £2 posted.

2. What is the inside diameter of that intake - will it fit my existing standard throttle body??? (is it 45mm?)

Exactly the same as the standard N/A throttle body, same sensors and size.

3. If I change the Mani only do I still get better airflow? Is it worth investing in 50mm throttle body and what car is it from? (do I have to port the mani then?)

Yes, the shape of the mani and smaller chamber is where you get the gains. It would be a massive ball ache to change the TB as well because of the sensors. I think the 4AFE TB is the best bet if you really want a 50mm one, but then you would need to port the inlet to get gains and they'd be minimal. Not worth the effort imo.

4. Do I have to change the ECU (after changing Mani only) or just overnight reset would do?

Your ECU will be fine, you don't even really NEED to reset it, it'll adjust itself within its own tolerances over a couple of days driving either way.

6. What is the most advantageous set up for this tubular inlet?

No different to not having the mani. This one is literally just an improvement, anything else you'd do to improve the car in your eyes will still improve the car. Bigger exhaust for better throttle response and so on will give the same gains.

7. After fitting this tubular inlet only - Is there anything I MUST do?

Make absolutely damn sure you've got the vac lines and coolant lines on the right way round. We've all done it at some point since the hoses are identical, but if you put them on backwards you'll pump coolant straight into the cylinders and best case is you have to sit there for 10 minutes while the engine sharts it all out of the exhaust. Worst case is you hydrolock it and pop a rod.

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From the Austrailian Starlet Club and thread: http://austarletclub.com/index.php?/topic/16601-fitting-a-corolla-manni/

"I fitted one to mine and it all pretty much swapped straight over"

Picture from: http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=compact&order=ASC&topic_id=45354&forum=1

This is the intake you want. Found in Glanza S or Corollas with 4e-fe engines."
Picture from: http://www.ukstarletowners.com/topic/32388-lotties-sol/

tubular corolla or the 4efte inlets are the 1s to go for

Another picture of Corolla inlet manifold

Picture from: http://www.ukstarletowners.com/topic/7411-getting-more-power-from-non-turbo-4efestarlet/

Picture from: http://www.ukstarletowners.com/topic/7411-getting-more-power-from-non-turbo-4efestarlet/

Starlet 1998, picture from: http://jamaicaclassifiedonline.com/motor-vehicles/for-sale-1998-toyota-starlet-30.htm

Dont know if this will intake will fit

Toyota Corolla 93-97 SOHC 1.8L 7A-FE Engine

jezza323 (http://austarletclub.com/index.php?/topic/9466-help-intake-info-for-a-4e-fe-ep91/page-3)

early 5efe manifold = 4efte manifold = 5efhe non ACIS manifold = early 4efe manifold

late 5efe manifold is basically the same as late 4efe manifold

and then there is a weirdo glanza 4efe tubular one

and the 5efhe ACIS one

tubular 4efe and late 5efe/4efe are good for torque, low rpm

all the rest are no good on a stock late 4efe because a stock late 4efe cant rev  

--- answer from Starlet_rich_uk ---

Don't know much about the differences between early and late moddels but heres my understanding

4efe(starlet)/5efe(paseo) = standard manifold (good torque)
4efe(glanza s)/Corrolla(ae111 euro) = Tubular = better peak power not so good for low down torque
4efte = Good for turbo with the shorter runner
5efhe ACIS = good all-rounder long and short runners (rare) 

 

Riko666 ( http://www.ukstarletowners.com/topic/7411-getting-more-power-from-non-turbo-4efestarlet/) gives this guidelines:

"in a naturally aspirated car there's only so much you can do...no idea how many times I've posted this but whatever, these are typical options:
- 5efhe Transplant (or just take the connecting rods, block, pistons, camshafts)
- Good Ignition System (Uprated Spark Plugs, Spark Plug wires, Coil)
- Proper Lubrication (Correct Oil, freer flowing Oil Filter)
- Uprated Radiator (plus coolant additives like Redline Water Wetter)
- Corolla Tubular/5efhe ACIS Manifold (port & polish it, extrude hone, ceramic coat...)
- Phenolic Intake Manifold Insulator Gasket
- 7/4AFE Throttlebody (port & polish it as well...)
- Heat-reflective Tape wrapped intake piping and freer flowing airfilter shielded from heat
- Tuned Tubular Exhaust Manifold (Ceramic Coated)
- Freer Flowing Tuned Diameter Exhaust System
- Decat/Freer Flowing Catalytic Converter
- 5efhe/Custom Camshafts
- Thinner Metal Headgaskets
- Lightened Ancillary/Crankshaft Pulleys
- Lightweight Flywheel
- Headwork (port & polish, extrude honing, x angle valve jobs...)
- Lightened & Uprated Valve train (lighter valves, spring retainers, stronger springs)
- Lightened Internals (Pistons, Connecting Rods, Crankshaft)
- Cylinder Boring (0.5 - 1.0mm overbore)
- Internal Friction Reduction (friction coatings & processes on internal components)
- Piggyback (eManage) or Standalone (Motec) ECU
- Individual Throttle Bodies"

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He mentions 5efhe ACIS Manifold also. I have to check up on that.




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Xpect: "Well ECUs are obviously different. Injectors too but I don't know which exactly are to wich Gen. So I state what I know.

The Corolla EE101 (4EFE Gen1):
88ps in europe, due to better fuel up to 100ps in Japan
Inlet: bigger, same as FTE (in fact FTE is based on Gen1)
4-2-1 exhaust mani (in two parts, for adapting on a starlet welding and a flexpipe are required)

Starlet and Corolla EE100 (4EFE Gen2):
75ps
4-1 exhaust
Higher compression
Smaller inlet mani
Thinner and lighter conrods at same strength as Gen1

Corolla EE111 and Glanza S (4EFE Gen3):
86ps (also up to 100 in Japan afaik)
Tubular inlet
Apart from that, ECU and injectors afaik same as Gen2 (Starlet 4E)
Some have different ignition setup
The Glanza S engine has a different fuel rail with higher pressure"
source: http://www.ukstarletowners.com/topic/75098-100bhp/

rmsnoel:
"Put a 50mm throttlebody off a 4afe corolla on a tubular manifold. It matches up right and the throttle sensor is a sensor.

Our uk gen2 is a more refined version of the gen1. The gen1 92-93 had 88ps with a up n down torque curve and 6500rev limit, the jdm had a higher limit hence 100ps. The gen1 used a 50mm tb and fte type manifold and the 4_2_1 ex manifold. It also had slighty more lift, slighty. The injectors were average squirty things and it had normal fuel pressure.

The gen2, our uk engine has 45mm throttlebody, longer AND narrower inlet runners and slightly, slighty less lift on the inlet cam. I believe to improve torque over the whole range. Bhp is also 10hp higher over the range until we hit our lower 6500rpm limit. The exhaust is a 4_1 type, its alot cheaper to make than the 4_2_1 but theres no evidence that it is better or worse than the gen1.

The gen2 also has a better type of injector- more missy spray than squirty squirty. It has a throttle sensor for more accurate tuning for mpg than the basic on off switch on the gen1 and fte. The idle control is on the tb instead of the manifold mounted gen1. It has 75bhp and is in the starlet and in corollas from 1993_1997 roughly

The bugeyed corolla is basically a gen2, although it has a tublar inlet manifold, this gives it 86bhp, same as when u put this manifold on your starlet! If you measure the runners they are bigger than all the other manifolds in diameter. If you measure all the demensions and get your little sister to do the maths like me youll see it uses some ram effect induction.

Then gen3 also has this tubular 86bhp inlet manifold. It is even more refined for emmisons and stuff than the uk gen2. It might have a 6800rpm limit. It uses coilpack ignition, a knock sensor and crankangle sensor to do its business. It has a 45mm throttlebody.

Georges Toyota Starlet from 1996

For about a week ago I got an email from George from Greece. He also has an Toyota Starlet, just like mine and had found this homepage. Just as I he likes these great nippy little cars!

I asked him if I could get some information and pictures of his Starlet to put here on the blog (and compare), and he was kind enough to provide me with some pictures and information. Thanks George!

Here are some information about the little reliable, unstoppable "The Beast":

"Some history and fun facts:
Originally bought in August 1996. First owner was the wife of one of my dads coworker. No crashes other than crashing the rear hatch by reversing (hence the glanza hatch door), mild usage until then, around 100k kms until around 2005.
My dad bought it then. Heavy usage, stuff like offroading, super long trips, massive abuse. more than 100000kms in 8 years.
Massive crash with a vintage Volvo estate around 2007, all doors replaced, car was jammed in the 2nd floor of a building, still no chassis or engine damage. Cost of repair around 700 euros.
I got my license in 2013 (Im 27, I just didnt get a license till then). Got it with 241000 kms. Replaced clutch kit (first time, was supposed to be changed at 100000kms). Added parking sensors, new radio and speakers, gearbox oil. Starter motor needed minor repairs at 255000kms, was supposed to be maintained at 100k too. Absolutely no unexpected problems or breakdows in 18 years.
Engine feels super responsive, fuel consumption is around 8 liters per 100km (heavy traffic, aggresive driving and much unneeded revving), consumption can get better if I calm down.
Brakes are good (completely different than newer models, drivers used to abs and electronic assists dont get along good with them), gearbox is precise and tight, I think it could be a little smoother. The non electronic throttle is really fun.
Drivers door has a different lock and key, due to someone trying to steal it, and braking the lock.
Im thinking of replacing it with an Alfa Romeo 147 (The most luxurious model with all options) or a Corolla T Sport, but I might also keep it, Im not on a tight budget but its a super reliable and practical everyday car, that costs nothing to maintain.

5 door version in 040 White. It is the version with a few more HP, before the european union "strangled" the ECU in order to achieve lower emissions.
Its the simplest possible configuration sold here, manual transmission, no ABS, no electric windows, no power steering, not even the clock on the dashboard. Super light too, I think less than 800kg.
With 255000kms on the odometer, the motor works so great it still outperforms almost anything on the regular, cheap 1.4L subcompact class.
There isnt a single door with the same serial number, since my dad crashed it and managed to get it stuck to the 2nd floor of an apartment complex. Still, no chassis damage, everything replaced and works perfectly to this day.
Anyway, I just wanted to share that I also own one and love it, because most people here dont give a crap about those cars, they say "it will never break down, so theres no reason to care for it, dont service it, ignore rust, rattling plastics etc"."

A bit worn :)

No watch, who needs one? Mine has one.

254402 km

airbag information

Toyota hub, not the same as on my car. I don't have that plastic cup, and the rims on mine is black and I think the holes are round.

George has added back sensors. I guess they come handy sometimes.

Lacks the little rubber for the board cut. George also has rear speaker that my car lacks.

Noise reduction from rattles I guess?

Rear hatch from an Starlet Glanza (turbo). Nice and sporty!

Brakelight, same as my car.

Very fresh, no rust on the cooler  "handles" as in mine.

More power than in my Starlet, this Starlet is not strangled. Dont know what is the diffrent. Perhaps intake and ECU.

Serialnumber and so on.

A stick about engine. I also have this in my car.

Oouch.

Not a single door with the same serialnumber, it has had a tuff life this little car :)

A hard life, but still runs without problems. Toyota Starlet Reliability!!

The Volvo did this?

Hmm. It does not rain so often in Greece, right? :)

I think it is the same in my car

Rear hatch and tankfillerpad

Cam belt replaced 2009. I still have the original in mine, but it is inspected.

This I do not have in my car, I guess it is the AC-compressor or?

Left Engine mount

Oilfilter

Here we have the Dash Dimmer, adjusting the instrument light. I think I have this also, but have to check.

Front lights height adjuster. The other I think is a fog light? 
There is no fog light, there was on the original hatch door, but now the hatch door has been change to a  glanza one. Got a message from George: "actually have  a fog light on the glanza hatch. Its on the same position the reverse light is on the right, but on the left and red. Also got some amazing mileage on out of town roads, 700km with around 45 liters!"
I think I have this in my car also, Will check when it gets warmer.

Well that is it. Thank you George for your contribution! I hope George keep us updated about what happens to his Toyota Starlet.