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| Screenshot from: http://www.toyota.ie/about/best-built-cars/ |
Some comments from the Irelish forum "www.boards.ie"
Captainspeed (http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=76027691)
“The prefacelift version of the 98-02 Corolla is one of the
most reliable cars ever made without a shadow of a doubt, those 4E-FE engines
were slow but they just kept going and going and going, the post facelift
4ZZ-FE VVTi on the other hand was a bit of a disaster with the burning oil and
the soft gearboxes! The radios in the post facelifts were renowned for failing
completely at random too!”
The 4e-fe engine is about as reliable as engines come and
they are very easy cars to drive.
“In fairness Jap cars from the 90s were near on
indestructible, modern Toyotas are nothing special for reliability, as we know
but of course most people still (stupidly) think that nothing beats a Toyota
for reliability.”
MCMLXXV
(http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056485236):
“A late 90's or early 00's Toyota is probably your best bet
OP.”
Toyota from the nineties: when cars didn't have any
electronics to go wrong
“A late 90's 1.3 Corolla with the unbreakable 4e-fe engine
is what I recommend. If buying aim for a 99 model as they are a much better
spec'd car than the 97-98 models and have abs as standard which is a bonus.
They are a very easy car to drive also with a nice light clutch and a very smooth gear change and all controls are well laid out and are easy to reach. Also build quality is top notch in these and reliability is second to none.”
They are a very easy car to drive also with a nice light clutch and a very smooth gear change and all controls are well laid out and are easy to reach. Also build quality is top notch in these and reliability is second to none.”
(http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=84437378)
“The mid-90's Toyotas (corolla, carina e, starlet) are
modern Irish Classics in my opinion. They fit the criteria of many Irish
Motorists, reliability being the main one. They sold so many of them that even
today, going on for 20 years later they are still a common sight on the roads
and parts are everywhere. If you are going the bangeronomics route for any
length of time, and have a commute to do, you could do a lot worse, fuel
consumption even on the petrol's is decent. Thats why they get recommended here
so often I reckon.”
Gives this good comment (http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=76027691):
“Saying that most of the modern cars today are'nt as
reliable as the older makes/models of the 90's..
Most modern Diesels have.....
1)Dual mass flywheels that can fail around 100k mls.
2)Diesel particle (particulate) filters that may need replacment around 100k mls
3)electric egr valves that can't be bypassed without bringing on and eml.
(except for engine ecu remap)
4)abs sensors..turbo control sensors..turbo pressure sensors..mass airflow sensors..crank/cam sensors...dpf diff sensors..dpf upstream/downstream temp sensors..common rail high pressure sensors..etc..etc that can fail at some stage.
Now that most of the modern cars are gone to start/stop there is futher chance of problems in the future...
E.g.
Was talking to an Opel/Vauxhall tec a few months ago who was after sitting a training course and he informed me that Opel/Vauxhall have introduced pressure sensors builtin to there glow plugs on the 1.7 td that optimises the combustion process within there diesel engines at the correct time.....These glow plugs sell for around £200 a pop...
The mad thing is nearly all of the aboveimprovements changes in modern
diesels are related to lowering emissions....As i have said before these maybe
reducing a hole in the ozone layer but there putting a hell of a hole in our
pockets...”
Most modern Diesels have.....
1)Dual mass flywheels that can fail around 100k mls.
2)Diesel particle (particulate) filters that may need replacment around 100k mls
3)electric egr valves that can't be bypassed without bringing on and eml.
(except for engine ecu remap)
4)abs sensors..turbo control sensors..turbo pressure sensors..mass airflow sensors..crank/cam sensors...dpf diff sensors..dpf upstream/downstream temp sensors..common rail high pressure sensors..etc..etc that can fail at some stage.
Now that most of the modern cars are gone to start/stop there is futher chance of problems in the future...
E.g.
Was talking to an Opel/Vauxhall tec a few months ago who was after sitting a training course and he informed me that Opel/Vauxhall have introduced pressure sensors builtin to there glow plugs on the 1.7 td that optimises the combustion process within there diesel engines at the correct time.....These glow plugs sell for around £200 a pop...
The mad thing is nearly all of the above
| 08-02-2013, 21:16 | #7953 |
"An e11 corolla has a diffrent fuel injection system to a starlet of the same era. So even though the starlet is lighter and has the same 4e-fe engine, it's still not as effecient as the corolla for the above reason."
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| I am of the same opinion as JohnBoy26. This comment is from: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056918970&page=4 |
BX_19:
"Toyota Starlet with the brilliant 1.3 4e-fe engine. Quite a powerful little engine in a car that weighs less then 800kg means it can move when it needs too.
Ridiculously reliable because there so simple, puts many other cars to shame"
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| Toyota Starlet forum comment from: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=70357704 |
05-04-2013, 12:29 (http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=83994602 ) #12
JohnBoy26
“The cars Toyota made in the late 90's were dull no doubt but that's where the critisism ended because their quality and reliabilty was unmatched by no other manufacturer, they were queit simply brilliantly put together cars and were very nice mechanically.
Their quality however started dropping in the early 00's imo and continues to drop to this present day.”
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Starlet EP91:
Kerb Weight
840kg - 860 kg depending on model
Tow Weight
800kg
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